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title: Workers are the Solution, Not the Problem
description: Episode 6 of The Drama-Free Workforce Podcast. Dr. Todd Conklin and Jen Long talk about their newest book Workers are the Solution, Not the Problem.
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# [Workers are the Solution, Not the Problem](https://dramafreeworkforce.com/the-drama-free-workforce-podcast/006-workers-are-the-solution-not-the-problem)

 Written by [Jennifer T. Long](https://dramafreeworkforce.com/the-drama-free-workforce-podcast/author/jen-long) | Mar 31, 2026, 7:30:04 PM

Welcome back to Own Up! The Podcast!

Episode 6 features a conversation between Jen and her friend and co-author Dr. Todd Conklin as they discuss the creation of their latest book [*Workers are the Solution, Not the Problem: A Guidebook to Leading Differently*](https://www.amazon.com/WORKERS-are-Solution-not-Problem/dp/B0F4JJYR3J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=AJ3V0D7R8706&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.b0kEeAlNtLom9SlqibHqKBGQjTUcEa-Ewq4MV6B-Uf6-HQGNTxTUu21gYlNkehQO.PrNyNgRVlgxvcNn4rVcEKiDnj69PhWPvpbywm1hCEKk&dib_tag=se&keywords=workers+are+the+solution+not+the+problem&qid=1758826030&sprefix=workers+are+th%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-1)! Listen along as they chat about:

- the origin of the book
- what they each brought to their collaboration
- the writing process
- the importance of shift
- [Gary Hamel](https://www.garyhamel.com/)
- how leaders are faring post-pandemic
- potential leadership workshops

and more!

You can connect with Todd and check out his books as well as his podcast "[Pre-Accident Investigations](https://preaccidentpodcast.podbean.com/)" over at his [HOP Hub](https://www.hophub.org/conklin-bio) page!  
Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite listening platform!  
Have a question or comment for Jennifer? Reach out on her website [jennifertlong.com/contact](https://jennifertlong.com/contact) or send an email to [podcast@dramafreeworkforce.com](mailto:podcast@dramafreeworkforce.com)!  
 Connect with Jennifer on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifertlong/)  
 Check out the [Drama-Free Workforce™ System](https://dramafreeworkforce.com/)!  
 Get the [Book](https://jennifertlong.com/book/)!  
 Check out the video on [our YouTube channel!](https://www.youtube.com/@ownupaccountability)

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